buzz is at it again

Discussion in 'PS2 Main' started by ShadowSun, Feb 17, 2013.

buzz is at it again

Discussion in 'PS2 Main' started by ShadowSun, Feb 17, 2013.

  1. Nraged

    Nraged I fly things

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    who the fuck cares... stop talking about BCP already, its getting old.

    OMFG he got to BR100 and now he wants everything nerfed.... ITS NONSENSE!
     
  2. Geneau

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    I admit it feels a bit weird to see this topic coming from the guy who inspired half of the outfits to Annihilator-spam every time you see a non-infantry unit. I've never used the Annihilator (doesn't do enough damage for me), but I can understand it is part of the AA problem we currently have. Being constantly locked-on from the moment you leave your WG can be pretty annoying, especially in combination with all the other AA weapons currently available.

    Removing the weapon entirely from the game probably won't happen. Especially since SoE is planning on adding even more rocket launchers (Empire Specific Rocket launchers). People will start complaining about the new ones as well, probably after they've used the hell out of them. Unfortunately, it seems that complaining is part of the game in every MMO.
     
  3. Patrick

    Patrick Ireland - Sunshine is a Rumour.

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    The two threads linked earlier raise good points and are quite well put together, but some of the ideas could use a bit more work, altogether it would be of help to the game, I especially like the instant action forcing you to a big battle, would be really handy for the newer players. The fact that it would have a much reduced cooldown in lieu of having no choice in the matter would be a great boon to sudden defense or attack orders. They would still need to keep the traditional instant action though, with the same timer, as the ability to drop on ones squad leader is paramount in some operations.
     
  4. Kowlefe

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    Nraged, they are allowed to talk about BCP if they wat. You dont have to read the thread
     
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  5. Phragg

    Phragg Donating Member

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    Remove ALL Lockonside 2 weapons. Replace lolspam Annihilator newbs with AA MAX. Much better gameplay for BOTH sides.




































    Skill required - will never happen because of this. And it's a god damn shame, too.
     
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  6. Patrick

    Patrick Ireland - Sunshine is a Rumour.

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    +1 to that, a well planned out group of maxes dedicated to anti-air can swiftly quash enemy air support, remember the days of having 20 odd maxes on the tower pads just pouring lead into the sky? Good times.
     
  7. Geneau

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    I do agree that AA maxes and having Rangers/Walkers on your vehicles requires way more skill than whatever lock-on weapon.
    Removing every lock-on weapon would destroy the setting of the game though. We already have pretty good (freakin expensive) guided missiles today (IR, laser, GPS, radar, it gives possibilities), so why wouldn't they in the near future? Has anyone ever seen a de Havilland Firestreak? Patrick, you live even closer to Britain than I do. How old are those rockets, 60 years? And how old are the AIM-9 Sidewinders (those are German, right?), about the same? Those are all heatseekers. 60 years ago, they already had heatseekers.

    Fire-and-forget weapons are real threats these days. That's why most (if not every) aircraft and helicopter has flares aboard these days. They don't work all the time, but it reduces the chance of being hit. Who of you doesn't know the Stinger? Even the Soviets used them when they invaded Afghanistan. 20 years later, US aircraft got shot down by the Stingers left behind.

    Planetside 2 isn't Call of Duty 2. The entire world possesses more advanced weapons now than they did years ago. Nukes, EMP, it's real. If the international society wouldn't have agreed not to deploy weapons into space, Orbital Strikes could be real in the near future as well.

    Don't get me wrong. Gameplay would change if they released a JDAM-kitted bomb launcher for liberators. But if they did, don't say it destroys the game. Just remember the wars of today are different than the wars of 100 years ago.

    If you don't like waging simulated war in the world we (will) live in, stop playing Planetside-like games and go for historic games.
     
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  8. Patrick

    Patrick Ireland - Sunshine is a Rumour.

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    Video says pretty much what I don't want to see, maybe if aircraft had more options to lose a lock? As opposed to flares say if you flew close to the landscape or alternative heat sources or something of the like, for example flying close to a bio lab to lose the lock/make the missile crash into it. Our current generation of weapons is mad alright, and in all fairness some of them are more advanced than what's currently in planetside. (Based on what's currently in)
     
  9. Phragg

    Phragg Donating Member

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    Derp.

    Realism =/= balance. Planetside 2 is not real life, I don't give a fuck if they have heat seeking chaingun bullets, fuck off with the no-skill fire and forget lolspam bullshit. Any noob can sit there and fire when the little red box turns green. Case in point: GokouZWAR's kid. He said he did it and got all excited, even furthering my point. It takes no skill and ruins gameplay for skilled tankers and pilots. (Don't take that the wrong way, I'm not talking shit on his kid.) Alas, everyone has them and uses them because that's the cool thing to do now.

    Tanks don't have lock-on crap. Neither do sunderers. In my Vanu Obsession video, I use A2A Missiles followed by a clip of rotary cannon because I HAVE to in order to level the playing field, not because I want to. Nowadays, I rock the Hailstorm/Rocket Pod combo and pwn skeeters, reavers, liberators, and assorted land vehicles. It takes skill to aim at the target, and time your attack with the correct strategy to not get taken out instantly.

    Just today, flew in high and fast over Regent Rock, swooped down and lolpodded a tank from the rear, circling around to take out 4 more before I was lolspammed by Annihilators from the guys I just killed. Not one ounce of flak was given.

    Take me out with a Decimator, I will congratulate you. Same with AA MAX / AA Turret.
    Take me out with Annihilator spam and you're just another no-skill player waiting for the red box to turn green so the computer can play your game for you...

    Just my opinion, of course.
     
  10. Drakknar

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    I haven't read his Annihilator post so I can't speak much about it. As far as I have seen I think they were a good implementation and did a good job countering air imbalance. As a primary tank driver I haven't had any issues when Playing smart to stay alive, and I see plenty of air doing the same, so overall I think it was a decent solution.

    What I do want to point out though is his post about battle flow. He is basically talking about bringing PS 1 mechanics back without the towers of death. I HIGHLY SUPPORT THIS!!! I am so sick of empty hacks and sitting around playing iPhone games waiting for hacks to go through, especially in the mornings when pop is rubbish. I shouldn't feel like there is more action gold farming in Guild Wars 2 than PS2.