Can't play Really Pissed.

Discussion in 'PS2 Main' started by Deathrus, Nov 22, 2012.

Can't play Really Pissed.

Discussion in 'PS2 Main' started by Deathrus, Nov 22, 2012.

  1. Deathrus

    Deathrus .

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    DROPPED $80 ON THE GAME including sub. Day one had 30 FPS medium sized battle, was decent enough for me to be happy.

    Day 2 log in my FPS IS 10-15.

    Tried evrey tweak in the book. My only hope was playing the game in a 800 res, with like 500m render range, It was unplayable .

    ALL I WAT IS A DECENT 40 FPS ON LOW. At least I can make top 20 with that as i did before. While I save up money for a new rig.

    I am so pissed I wasted money on a game I cannot play. Sorry guys it's jsut really crappy that I need to go Buck wild to enjoy a game; as in drop money for a new RIG TO play a F2P game becuase it's uses legacy software which ends up killing modern CPUS.

    PS2 Runs in 32 bit, not 64 bit. Most gamers use 64 BIT FOR MANY MANY PERFORMANCE REASONS. The buses, pipelines, MAM are way bigger.
    PS2 RUNS DX9.
    PS2 IS NOT FLAGGED TO ADDRESS ANYMORE THAN 1.4 GBS of RAM.This has to be done the manual way in order for it to Address more.. Once again legacy crap.
    PS2 has many more issues, like running like shit on AMD based computers and G cards. Read the tech forums for more info.

    You have to have a monster RIG to run This game Smooth on high IE 60+ FPS IN A HUGE BATTLE. the only people that I have seen able to do this are I-7 ivys at 4ghz. I might as well buy a spartan.

    a 600-800 dollar gaming Desktop should handle this game in ultra no problems.



    I am really just thinking about getting a intel Xtreme at like 4 ghz, windows XP, 4gb of ram a DX 9 g card. It would porbably run this game better than my 2 grand computer.

    I just bought a 16gb upgrade bu,t it comes monday. If It doesn't help I am going to bitch at sony customer service until they give me a refund or something.

    /rant off.
     
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  2. Mortos

    Mortos Basement dweller extraordinare!!!

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    I feel your pain man, I am also feeling the FPS kick In the nuts.....just got a few new parts but have not tried them out and I am only thinking I might get a few more FPS, saving for a new rig but its going to be a while before I get it.
     
  3. DiscoPotato

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    There is a Red post on this
    Posted By CodeForge (developer)
    Who knows how long it will take them to do something about this.

    Mind posting your system specs Deathrus? I don't want to kick a dead horse but I may be able to help out a little.

    I run a nice hex core rig and have had problems since the beginning with PS2 telling me my processor is at fault.
     
  4. xenogrant

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    For me the game ran better in beta, used to crash all the time, then they fixed it, now i crash to desktop again like back in beta pre fix, unless i set settings to low at which point it runs just fine. So something to do with graphic settings/drivers.

    Friend of mine rolled back charges for shadowbane, and 6 months of subscription on the grounds of services not provided, which is kinda hard to prove or disprove but he pulled it off, if you really wanna make a stand and don't mind burning a bridge with SoE.
     
  5. 3dfx

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    Only benefit is more memory.

    Along with almost every other game bar a few. They all, except said exceptions, run DX9 with features from 10/11.

    I'm inclined to think that AMDs architecture just matches up especially poor with this game. Its puzzling why people even buy AMD cpus outside of HTPC/casual gaming rigs.

    As for their GPUs, I'm not too sure what the source of performance discrepancy between AMD/NVIDIA would come from without looking into it more. Likely solvable with driver updates.

    You can get to [current] maximum in-combat zone performance in this game for about ~$900. 3570k + GPU of choice in $180-250 range. The game will be CPU bound in any area with high player density ("huge battles"). So better GPUs wont help when it matters. No other CPU will out perform the 3570K clock-for-clock.

    It wont make a difference unless you run virtual machines in the background for some reason.


    I run an i5 750@3.7 and a 5770 and run 20-40fps in the vast majority of situations. It dips into teens on occasion, but irregularly enough that its a non-problem.

    Your CPU is the problem. The fact it has 6 cores is not relevant. If its not OC'd to 4.0/4.3-4.7 (depending which series its from), then it's not much different than an i5 2310. Even overclocked its still going to be your bottleneck (just slightly less-so).
     
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  6. DiscoPotato

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    It is def on the lower end of hex cores. AMD 1090T. I expect optimization will help out a lot. I think my biggest problem is running 4 GB of RAM. Or does that not matter so much for ps2?
     
  7. 3dfx

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    Oh for some reason I assumed it was an Intel, whoops. This is definitely a heavy bottleneck. I believe the 1090T can hit 3.8-4.0 if you overclock it. I don't have first hand experience with it though.

    How much optimization will help is hard to say. If they can effectively spread the load to more cores then the increase could be astronomical. Whether or not its feasible to thread it better, who knows. I'm personally expecting something along the lines of a 4-6fps increase (<15%).

    To clarify, the first statement in the quote is about performance gain for using 64bit over 32bit. I was alluding to there being no intrinsic gain for using 64bit, it just allows access to more memory. As for having 4GB, it shouldn't hinder you at all as long as you're just playing the game.
     
  8. Deathrus

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    16gb will help me for sure. Since I Flagged PS2, I can address the max of 4gb. However I wont be sad if the 16 gb doesn't help. I use AI,PS and coda 2 and a few compilers myself.

    You're wrong about 64 bit, memory is only one thing. Techonology hasnet fully caught up to take advatage of the more registers and FPCs. Not to mention 64 bit has the advantage of running in 32 bit mode until tech catches up and having access to more bythes per data chunk. 32 bit will be like 16 bit soon.

    Tell the people who are mad about their 800$ hombrews ranting on the forums right next to me.



    I am not going to get into why you havent updated XP TO 7 argument or why you're still using cmd over powershell, jsut various reasons why it should be upgraded. Dx 9 came out in 02 so did the northwood and why is the northwood not used anymore?



    AMD is top notch, it's due to poor programming that Forgelight runs like crap. AMD has had several milestones over intel. To say AMd is any less of a competitor is a fallacy.

    Yes thanks for the Advice Xeno and Disco, I read codeforges post, That guy is a DICK. "I can give everyone a million certs and unlitmied resources"........ "To bad the script takes 20 mins to run and the server shuts down in 15.." DICK.

    My game ran 80 fps on medium IN TECH TEST. I had some of the best times in tech test, he's full of shit, just like his statement to all his "BETA PLAYERS".


    HIS post doesn't 1. help me now. 2 help me in 2 days. 3. help me in the next 6 months? He said they are working on it, no ETA, no timeframe nothing. For the Average JOE thats fine. For me it's like a cockslap in the face to we have no fukin idea.
     
  9. CrazyKillerCat

    CrazyKillerCat Admin & Graphics Designer

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    "PS2 IS NOT FLAGGED TO ADDRESS ANYMORE THAN 1.4 GBS of RAM.This has to be done the manual way in order for it to Address more"

    I'd like to know how.
     
  10. lPaladinl

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    I'm with you DeathRus. I spent 2k on this PC 2 years ago. Yeah, sure, it's not "top notch" anymore the way pc tech evolves so quickly, but it's enough to be able to handle any new shit for years.

    AMD Phenom II 1055 T x6 @ 2.8ghz
    AMD Radeon HD 6970 IceQ Special edition. 2 GB VRam
    8 Gbs DDR3 RAM

    The solution to their FPS issues relies mostly in their ability to allow multi-threading so that those of us who've decided to move on from dual-core CPUs can actually get some of the power we paid for from having more cores. Yeah. my CPU isn't some amazing 4 ghz beast, but if they were to optimize the game for multi-core usage a huge majority of the players would see MUCH better results.

    More RAM will not help you. A better GPU will not help you. The only part that you can consider changing is buying a dual core that you can overclock to the max and hope for 4-6 ghz.

    And being in favor of Intel/NVidia myself, don't try to start saying AMD is lesser than either. Fact is AMD puts out the same kind of power for a much lower price. Only ACTUAL difference between your choice of set-up is intel and nvidia tend to be more overclock friendly. So yes, some of you can enjoy paying double the price for gear that you'll burn out in less than half the time, some people can get the same respectable power and make it last for much longer. Past that you're just looking at what games go "Oh! Look! we support your brand!" And minor differences in the display between cards, which is of an opinion to which looks better.